Michael Shaw is the host of The Conversation, a podcast about
the contemporary arts. He talks with various artists, collectors,
dealers, curators and more on the show. Michael has been running
his show since 2011 and he talks about some of the upcoming
challenges he is likely to face with growing his podcast. Michael
also shares on how he has developed such a loyal following over the
years; to the point where people donate to his show.
07:00 – Michael talks about sound
09:05 – When did Michael launch
12:05 – Does Michael have a lot of
16:00 – Michael prefers a great
conversationalist vs. someone who has done well in their
20:35 – Does Michael go out of his
way to get the people he admires on the show?
22:35 – It’s better to respect the
guest more than their career choices to create an amazing
25:00 – I talk about the two shows
that left me kind of star struck.
27:05 – Michael knows people are
tired of Marc Maron, but the man inspired him to create a
28:45 – It’s all about finding the
right balance between being really personal vs. being
29:10 – How did Michael learn to
be a great interviewer?
30:40 – Was Michael curious
growing up? He says not really.
31:20 – It’s about process as well
as curiosity. Having a good process can really make things
31:40 – Michael believes great
shows happen when he and the guest are both in the moment
37:15 – Most people don’t have the
ability to engage in a conversation. We just stare at our phones
43:00 – Michael talks about
artists and different styles.
46:35 – What kind of challenges
has Michael faced as an artist?
50:35 – Michael has some pretty
loyal and dedicated fans.
51:00 – It’s hard to go out of
your way to donate to a podcast.
54:35 – I talk about the
relationships I have developed with my listeners.
57:00 – Podcast content is
undervalued and successful art is overvalued.
59:10 – Michael talks about his
01:02:35 – What’s Michael’s
fondest memory of New York city?
01:03:30 – What has Michael
changed his mind about recently?
01:08:25 – It’s an interesting
balance between being burned out vs. needing that social contact
01:09:15 – Michael depends on his
guests for referrals.
01:11:35 – At a certain point,
Michael felt like he was just a tool.
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